Tuesday, December 27, 2016

Viper 4105V install, 3rd Gen Dodge Ram 1500

So living in a northern climate makes you appreciate any little thing that can keep you from unnecessarily going outside during winter.  Hence, a remote start.

I recently bought a 2003 Ram 1500 quad cab SLT 4x4 that luckily came with a topper but no keyless and no remote start.  I still think its odd beacause my old 2000 Sierra came with keyless, auto-headlights and no distributor cap/rotor. (That's a whole 'nother gripe)

Anyway I picked up a Viper 4105V Remote Start and Keyless system this past week at a steal! Too good to pass up.  No unbeknownst to me is that Viper is HORRIBLE at instructions. Their systems are sold to consumers but you are expected to get it professionally installed.  They will not give you more detailed instructions for the actual install than a pinout and a very short descriptor of what each wire does.  It's up to you to obtain a wiring diagram for your vehicle and translate their descriptions to match the wiring in your vehicle.

Anyway after much trial, some error and a few wise tidbits from 12volt.com I completed the install in about 6 hours.  (With food and beer breaks).

So below is an ugly table of my findings, hope it helps someone. Oh BTW my truck does not have a transponder key, if yours does you will have to get a bypass module.


pin number - color - description - ram wire


Pri Harness

1 Light green black - 200ma factory alarm disarm - NOT USED

2 Green/white - 200ma factory alarm arm - NOT USED

3 yellow - ignition out - To Heavy 6 NOT USED

4 white/blue - activation output - NOT USED

5 orange - 500ma ground when locked - NOT USED

6 brown - 200ma horn output - black/red steering column

7 red/white - trunk release - NOT USED  (Might use this for a tailgate lock)

8 black - ground

**9 white - light flash - purple/yellow @ headlight switch with relay and 330 ohm resistor


Remote start harness

1 black/white - parking brake - ground

2 purple/white - tach - injector or coil wire Any wire other than teh green wire on the coil

3 brown - brake shutdown - white/tan above brake pedal

4 gray - hood pin - ground when hood shut

5 blue/white - 200ma rear defogger - NOT USED


Heavy Gauge Relay Harness

1 red - 12vdc input - red/white steering column

2 pink/white - Second ign/accessory out NOT USED

3 red - 12vdc input - red/white steering column

4 orange - accessory input - orange steering column NOT USED

5 purple - starter output - yellow steering column

6 pink - ignition 1 input - steering column NOT USED


Door Lock*

1 blue - -200ma unlock out - blue driver kick panel

2 empty

3 green -200ma lock out - tan/pink driver kick panel


Satellite Harness not used

D2D (I dont even know what this is) likely unused

Bitwriter harness not used

* used 2 x relays, unlock needs 330ohm resistor, lock needs 820ohm. (I used 330 and 1k and it works) http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/26500_RAM-FULL-SIZE-PICKUP-_DODGE%20RAM%201%20WIRE%20JBS%20UNITS.pdf
** http://diagrams.marktoonen.nl/DOWNLOADS/17044_RAM-FULL-SIZE-PICKUP-_CHRYSLER%20PARKING%20LIGHT%20DIAGRAM.pdf


UPDATE:


I sent an email to Viper's customer support, I had heard they would not help you unless you are an authorized dealer. That's rumor turns out to be true. If you won't offer support then why sell on Amazon??



Type your response ABOVE THIS LINE to reply


Benjamin Hart

Subject: Viper.com - Customer Feedback/Question

DEC 27, 2016 | 03:17PM PST
Ashley replied:

Good Afternoon,

Thank you for contacting Directed Electronics Consumer Support. Unfortunately we only provide installation and troubleshooting support on this product if you are an authorized dealer. Please take the vehicle back to an authorized dealer. You can go to Directed.com and use the dealer locator tool to find your nearest authorized dealer.

This policy is in place to ensure that Directed Electronics is not held liable for damage caused by improper installation of this particular product.


Directed Electronics Consumer Support Team

1-800-876-0800


Best Regards,
Ashley

DEC 25, 2016 | 02:57PM PST
Original message
Benjamin wrote:

Name: Ben
Email Address: emails_address@me.com
Phone Number: 123-555-1212

Attention to Directed Department: Customer Service

Feedback/Question: I just bought a 4105V and I have a few questions. A. What is the purpose of the Satellite harness? B. What is the purpose of the D2D harness? C. Do you produce an actual Install guide, not vehicle specific, but the Quick Reference Install Guide kinda sucks. It's helpful but not a ton for self-installers. Thanks!

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This message was sent to email_address@me.com in reference to Case #: 129381.

Last reply.. warranty null and void.


Subject: Viper.com - Customer Feedback/Question

DEC 28, 2016  |  04:04PM PST 
Ashley replied:
Hello,

We do not sell our products to anyone but authorized dealers. If you bought this module from Ebay, Amazon ect., unfortunately, the device's limited warranty is immediately voided. As stated on our website, we only advise professional installation from authorized dealers as they are specially trained on how to install our devices. We are unable to guide an individual through installation due to liability issues. Please proceed to an authorized dealer.

Please go to the link below and you will be able to find an authorized dealer in your area.

http://www.directed.com/Contact/WhereToBuy.aspx

If you have any other questions, please feel free to call or email.

Thank you for your patience,
Directed Electronics Consumer Support Team
1-800-876-0800

Best Regards,

Ashley

If you care about a warranty, DO NOT BUY VIPER PRODUCTS and install yourself.

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